The USA Ryder Cup team could be a train wreck

[MUNIGRIT]

I dont see why people even think the US is a dog in this. I think US is running away with it if they do it right. Course should be perfect for US team and can take advantage of last half of Euro team.

Edited August 30, 2021 by MUNIGRIT

[OrangeGravy]

18 minutes ago, MUNIGRIT said:

I dont see why people even think the US is a dog in this. I think US is running away with it if they do it right. Course should be perfect for US team and can take advantage of last half of Euro team.

You can't really ever expect a runaway though can you? Just about every RC plays out the same way no matter who ultimately wins. EU plays like it's an opportunity for greatness and the US plays like it's a risk of humiliation and by doing so, often is humiliated

 

 

[MMB1500]

[3whacker]

after yesterday's performance how many want Cantlay as their partner in alternate shot or four ball...the US team has a lot of mediocre putters and those who run hot or cold...Cantlay looks to be the most solid of anyone on the team with the flatstick ....maybe not quite in YJS league but darn close

[lightgrip]

On 6/7/2021 at 10:02 AM, imakaveli said:

We will arrive with a meh team this year, so even with lack of camaraderie I am pretty sure US will take this one. At the end the team who holes more putt wins.

Agree on the putting.

[MUNIGRIT]

On 8/30/2021 at 1:34 PM, OrangeGravy said:

You can't really ever expect a runaway though can you? Just about every RC plays out the same way no matter who ultimately wins. EU plays like it's an opportunity for greatness and the US plays like it's a risk of humiliation and by doing so, often is humiliated

 

 

Why wouldn't I expect it with 2 of the last 3 complete blowouts on US. The one loss was an all time choke job which was looking like another blowout. I expect it again. It always gets brought up how Europe has done well but never mentioned that the US has killed them on their courses setup their way just like Europe does on their turf.

Edited August 31, 2021 by MUNIGRIT

[MUNIGRIT]

22 hours ago, 3whacker said:

after yesterday's performance how many want Cantlay as their partner in alternate shot or four ball...the US team has a lot of mediocre putters and those who run hot or cold...Cantlay looks to be the most solid of anyone on the team with the flatstick ....maybe not quite in YJS league but darn close

Xander

[CasualLie]

Note to Stricker....do not pick P Reed.  It does not matter if he is Captain America or bleeds the flag.  His game is not there.  Injury and double pneumonia...it sucks, but the timing is not there.   

 

 

[Hawkeye77]

23 minutes ago, CasualLie said:

Note to Stricker....do not pick P Reed.  It does not matter if he is Captain America or bleeds the flag.  His game is not there.  Injury and double pneumonia...it sucks, but the timing is not there.   

 

 

Pick Cink!

[3whacker]

IMO its Spieth, Finau, and Schauffle......which leaves Three picks....I hope its Na, Scheffler, and ?

[grm24]

55 minutes ago, 3whacker said:

IMO its Spieth, Finau, and Schauffle......which leaves Three picks....I hope its Na, Scheffler, and ?

It has to be Harris English. Better year in solely PGA Tour results than Na and Scheffler. Kind of tough to leave the world #11 and 10th ranked player in RC points off of the team and take lower rated players with weaker playing resumes. Especially those that have not won a PGA Tour event. Na is OWGR #30. Scheffler is OWGR #21. No circumstance Scheffler gets picked over English. 

 

Both Na and Scheffler at this point are also well behind English in the RC points standings and currently trail or are tied him (Na) at the Tour Championship.

 

Whistling Straits is a big ball park. Which works against Na. Kisner is also a wildcard. Like Na his length is a concern though like Na his putting prowess might offset that. Both Na and Kisner missed the cut in the 2015 PGA at Whistling Straits. Na was T58 at the PGA Championship there in 2010. Fun to speculate.

Edited September 4, 2021 by grm24

[gsrjc]

5 hours ago, grm24 said:

It has to be Harris English. Better year in solely PGA Tour results than Na and Scheffler. Kind of tough to leave the world #11 and 10th ranked player in RC points off of the team and take lower rated players with weaker playing resumes. Especially those that have not won a PGA Tour event. Na is OWGR #30. Scheffler is OWGR #21. No circumstance Scheffler gets picked over English. 

 

Both Na and Scheffler at this point are also well behind English in the RC points standings and currently trail or are tied him (Na) at the Tour Championship.

 

Whistling Straits is a big ball park. Which works against Na. Kisner is also a wildcard. Like Na his length is a concern though like Na his putting prowess might offset that. Both Na and Kisner missed the cut in the 2015 PGA at Whistling Straits. Na was T58 at the PGA Championship there in 2010. Fun to speculate.

Agree. Plus he’s playing well at east lake. 

[stingerfade]

On 9/2/2021 at 9:47 PM, CasualLie said:

Note to Stricker....do not pick P Reed.  It does not matter if he is Captain America or bleeds the flag.  His game is not there.  Injury and double pneumonia...it sucks, but the timing is not there.   

 

 

Plus he’s a cancer

[golfandfishing]

On 8/27/2021 at 2:25 PM, MUNIGRIT said:

Poston, Kokrak(I think he should be a pick), Todd, ZJ, Reed, English(i think should be). Those are your picks.

Isn’t Kokrak from Canada?

[stingerfade]

Zalatoris would be a great pick. Such a great ball striker and fan favorite. 

[gvogel]

2 hours ago, stingerfade said:

Plus he’s a cancer

They already have one (or two) controversial players in DeChampeau (and maybe Koepka); they certainly don't need Reed.  Patrick tries to put the I in team.

[Duct Tape]

On 8/30/2021 at 4:35 PM, MMB1500 said:

So you’re saying it’s a guaranteed win?…..

[bscinstnct]

57 minutes ago, Duct Tape said:

So you’re saying it’s a guaranteed win?…..

 

Ahhh love….hate

 

Just two sides of the same coin. Either can fuel the determination required to perform in sports ; )

[MUNIGRIT]

3 hours ago, golfandfishing said:

Isn’t Kokrak from Canada?

He could be but his nationality is USA.

[stinger_gc]

Legitimate question: who is Bryson gonna play with?  I know Spieth/JT will play together. I can see Brooks playing with Finau. I'm sure Dustin, Cantlay, and Morikawa can play with almost anyone. So where does that leave Bryson? Seems to me like he's kinda the oddball/last resort partner. 

[stingerfade]

1 hour ago, gvogel said:

They already have one (or two) controversial players in DeChampeau (and maybe Koepka); they certainly don't need Reed.  Patrick tries to put the I in team.

The crap he pulled after last time with whining to the media should be a lifetime ryder cup time out 

[stinger_gc]

Outside of Rahm no one on this European team really scares me.  The only reason we lost in 2018 was because the European captains picks went 9-3-1 while the US captain's picks went 2-10. Below are the records of both Captains picks. 

 

Europe

casey= 1-1-1

sergio=3-1-0

poulter=2-2

stenson=3-0

 

USA

bryson=0-3

phil=0-2

tiger=0-4 

finau=2-1

[3whacker]

1 hour ago, PHILsThemannnn said:

Legitimate question: who is Bryson gonna play with?  I know Spieth/JT will play together. I can see Brooks playing with Finau. I'm sure Dustin, Cantlay, and Morikawa can play with almost anyone. So where does that leave Bryson? Seems to me like he's kinda the oddball/last resort partner. 

one thing you have to consider if you play him in alternate shot is that he plays a Bridgestone ball, most of the guys on the team I think are either Pro V1/1X or TP5 staffers, TW is the only other guy who might play a similar type ball to BDC...in 4 ball its not a factor

[stinger_gc]

11 minutes ago, 3whacker said:

one thing you have to consider if you play him in alternate shot is that he plays a Bridgestone ball, most of the guys on the team I think are either Pro V1/1X or TP5 staffers, TW is the only other guy who might play a similar type ball to BDC...in 4 ball its not a factor

Doesn't Bryson play a very low spin ball? 

[3whacker]

32 minutes ago, PHILsThemannnn said:

Doesn't Bryson play a very low spin ball? 

he would have to, could you imagine him trying to keep a ProV1 on the course....

[stinger_gc]

21 minutes ago, 3whacker said:

he would have to, could you imagine him trying to keep a ProV1 on the course....

That would be hilarious. Could see him launching a few balls in Lake Michigan followed by his caddie.

[Pops99]

If Reed isn’t picked useGOLFfacts Twitter is going to be absolute fire haha

[BombinJim]

On 9/4/2021 at 1:08 AM, grm24 said:

It has to be Harris English

 

On 9/4/2021 at 1:08 AM, grm24 said:

Na was T58 at the PGA Championship there in 2010. Fun to speculate.

Agreed on Harris. He’s had a great year and finished well in the 2015 PGA at WS. NA has played out of his mind the past two weeks so could be a great captains pick.

[Rocky Ball-boa]

On 9/4/2021 at 12:01 PM, stingerfade said:

Plus he’s a cancer

 

Why bring star signs into it? Not sure astrology is very wide spread amongst RC captains.

 

Joking aside - yeah unlike many in this thread, I think chemistry counts for a lot. In no small part because players themselves keep saying it is. In many build-up and post-game/tournament interviews the Euro players put strong emphasis on the team morale and support from their team mates.

 

I know we like to say things like "highly trained athletes", "professionals" etc. and there's no denying that they are.. But first and foremost they're human. They were human long before they were golf players, and that must count for something.

Humans like and thrive under reinforcements, positivity and gets energised from those around them.

[bubbagump]

On 9/4/2021 at 11:18 AM, PHILsThemannnn said:

Legitimate question: who is Bryson gonna play with?  I know Spieth/JT will play together. I can see Brooks playing with Finau. I'm sure Dustin, Cantlay, and Morikawa can play with almost anyone. So where does that leave Bryson? Seems to me like he's kinda the oddball/last resort partner. 

 

Just chuck him with Cantlay.  Bryson can gripe and complain his way around, and Cantlay will just maintain status quo and operate forward.  Bonus points for pairing Cantlay's putter with Bryson off the tee.