Ping's new G410 LST driver

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  • Pleasedwith3puttsPleasedwith3putts Members Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I had a good session today trying the 410 LST 10.5 vs 410 plus 9 vs Epic Flash SZ 10.5
    I gamed a 400 LST 10 for a while and the 410 LST is a worthwhile upgrade. Sound and feel are much improved and whilst not quite as nice as the plus, it is far nicer then the flash sz.
    Ballaspeeds are similar with SZ just edging it, similar launch and spin but LST is more forgiving. I tried both the Alta (too long at 45.75" and soft) the Tensei orange (good length at 45.25" but still too soft) and the pro 65 which feels nice but doesn't generate the same ballspeed for me. The wighting system worked well too, but I lost about 2mph ballspeed if I moved the weight away from centre.
    I'm just going to re-tip some of the sahfts I had in the 400 lst, as I need to game one of these for a while, I'm very impressed.

  • juggernaut0629juggernaut0629 Members Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Next combo for my LST will be Kiyoshi white 75X set in flat setting 44.75" @ D6. Then D8, & animal style @ D8. Might go back to the evenflow setting it flat. W loft -1*. Can't wait

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  • therealjonzonetherealjonzone Members Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @juggernaut0629 said:
    Next combo for my LST will be Kiyoshi white 75X set in flat setting 44.75" @ D6. Then D8, & animal style @ D8. Might go back to the evenflow setting it flat. W loft -1*. Can't wait

    I actually don’t mind D6 but I definitely don’t hit it as far as D4
    That seems to be the Swingweight best suited for my timing.

  • dpb5031dpb5031 Jupiter, FLMembers Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I've got enough rounds in with it now to know the LST is a keeper. I'm using the 9 degree, neutral weighting and loft, but in the flat setting. Shaft is Tour AD IZ 6x at D3. I messed around with the Evenflow Black and Atmos Black, both worked well also, but the IZ is just "easier." I've lowered my spin from around 2900 with my GMax to 2500 with the LST. I can alter my AOA to decrease it more, but in my case accuracy & control suffer so I typically hit down about 1 degree.

    Carry seems about the same in normal wind, but I'm getting some welcomed roll-out with the LST. Into the wind both carry & total are longer. The LST might not be quite as forgiving as the Max across the face, but it's still pretty forgiving.

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  • Steel DilloSteel Dillo Members Posts: 191 ✭✭✭

    My 8.5* G400 LST developed a crack in the hosel. Sent pics to Ping & they are replacing with a 9* 410 LST. I guess if I don't like it, I can always sell it and get another G400 LST.

  • matchavezmatchavez Aotearoa New ZealandUnregistered Posts: 4,286 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steel Dillo said:
    My 8.5* G400 LST developed a crack in the hosel. Sent pics to Ping & they are replacing with a 9* 410 LST. I guess if I don't like it, I can always sell it and get another G400 LST.

    Lucky. I had the same crack, and had to get a head sent after two months. Customer service at Ping is great if you're in the US...

    14 Pings. Blueprints are incredibly good. Fetch is the most underrated putter on the market. Don't @ me.

  • Kale_mKale_m Members Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @matchavez said:

    @Steel Dillo said:
    My 8.5* G400 LST developed a crack in the hosel. Sent pics to Ping & they are replacing with a 9* 410 LST. I guess if I don't like it, I can always sell it and get another G400 LST.

    Lucky. I had the same crack, and had to get a head sent after two months. Customer service at Ping is great if you're in the US...

    Customer service in Canada was great to me while dealing with a lost tungsten weight in my G400 lst. To the point where they gave me a direct number to call while dealing with the issue.

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  • matchavezmatchavez Aotearoa New ZealandUnregistered Posts: 4,286 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it's just countries where they go through a contract service provider. Then you're subject to that.

    14 Pings. Blueprints are incredibly good. Fetch is the most underrated putter on the market. Don't @ me.

  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to CanadaMembers Posts: 12,487 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Heard from rep today
    Arriving Wed morning ... woooooo wooooooo

    Ping G410 LST 11.5* Aldila Nasty Long 60x
    Ping G400 3w 13.9* X-Torsion Cu 60s
    Callaway GBB 5w 17.5* NVS 85x
    Callaway Apex 4h 23* Catalyst 70s
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  • johnnyprojohnnypro Members Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @johnnypro said:

    @johnnypro said:
    Picked mine up yesterday.
    10.5, Tensei Orange stiff, 45.25"
    Just a range session but so far, so good....especially liked sound and feel.
    Will it kick my TS2 out of the bag?
    We'll see. That's a tall order.

    Two rounds now and, yes, it has kicked the TS2 out of the bag.
    I love the look, the feel, the sound, the distance, the forgiveness.
    I was afraid anything that says "LST" was for a much stronger player than me, but I don't that's the case here. On Sunday, I put a couple in spots I have not visited in at least 5 years. Not selling my TS2 yet but the G410 LST is just a great driver, IMO.

    Stop the presses!!! Had my best driving round in years with the TS2. It's back in the bag and the 410 LST is in the closet.

    Problem is I'm not the type who likes switching drivers every couple of rounds. LST might be going bye-bye.

  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to CanadaMembers Posts: 12,487 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    First round in today
    Hard to assess as it was just the tour 65s that came in it and the AD MJ6s shafts I have with the 410 tips
    I prefer the head size and shape of the 400 , smaller to my eye
    It's longer than the 400, a few crazy long drives tonight. With the the two current shafts it is lower launching than the 400, even set at 12* ...both shafts are too soft for me fwiw
    Will report back when I get more tips on 4 favourite shafts ... Blueboard, Oban, Aldila NL and RIP 50 etc

    Ping G410 LST 11.5* Aldila Nasty Long 60x
    Ping G400 3w 13.9* X-Torsion Cu 60s
    Callaway GBB 5w 17.5* NVS 85x
    Callaway Apex 4h 23* Catalyst 70s
    Callaway Apex 5h 26* Mitsu KK 80s
    Ping Blueprints 6i-PW DG xp115 x100 p-spec org dot
    Vokey sm2 TVD M grinds 50*, 54* & 60* DG s400 Onyx
    Scotty X7m
  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to CanadaMembers Posts: 12,487 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Down to Blueboard tour issue 53x, very stout .. 272cpm at 46.25" ... great for fades
    Vs Aldila Nasty Long 60x (love big kick at the bottom)
    Both at 46.25" and d9
    30 mins in heat was tough in a humidex adjusted 41C sunny day (106F)

    Ping G410 LST 11.5* Aldila Nasty Long 60x
    Ping G400 3w 13.9* X-Torsion Cu 60s
    Callaway GBB 5w 17.5* NVS 85x
    Callaway Apex 4h 23* Catalyst 70s
    Callaway Apex 5h 26* Mitsu KK 80s
    Ping Blueprints 6i-PW DG xp115 x100 p-spec org dot
    Vokey sm2 TVD M grinds 50*, 54* & 60* DG s400 Onyx
    Scotty X7m
  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Tasmania to CanadaMembers Posts: 12,487 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    OK
    The BB 53x won out. Good blend into the fairway woods as well. Made some set up adjustments to lock in the draw
    This loves to hit straight shots as they spout in the TXG vid
    I will note that I prefer the weighting system of the 400 better. I think I prefer the feel of the 400 better. Now that may change if I risk taking my beloved Oban Revenge 65x shaft and put a 410 tip on it, instead of the 400
    The 410 does not feel as good with the weight on the heel or the toe imo .... YMMV

    Ping G410 LST 11.5* Aldila Nasty Long 60x
    Ping G400 3w 13.9* X-Torsion Cu 60s
    Callaway GBB 5w 17.5* NVS 85x
    Callaway Apex 4h 23* Catalyst 70s
    Callaway Apex 5h 26* Mitsu KK 80s
    Ping Blueprints 6i-PW DG xp115 x100 p-spec org dot
    Vokey sm2 TVD M grinds 50*, 54* & 60* DG s400 Onyx
    Scotty X7m
  • juggernaut0629juggernaut0629 Members Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I hit the LST with my beloved Matrix Reign black G60B the other day. What a combo! Managed to hit the Kiyoshi white, Veylix Roughneck, Fujikura pro black, evenflow black, tensei orange. All Swingweights between D6 & D8. Kiyoshi was 44.75" & all others were 45.25". Absolutely love the reign, followed by evenflow, then Veylix & kiyoshi. Soft butter cuts with every setup that day. A couple of bombs into the wind. I'm undecided on what to keep the bag though. 410+ or 410LST....

    Ping G LST 9*
    Callaway Epic 3w & 5w Diamana Thump
    X2 Hot #4 Hybrid Matrix White Tie
    Ping ie1 5 - GW Nippon SPO
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  • boycer11boycer11 ClubWRX Posts: 3,521 ClubWRX

    Any more feedback vs the 410+?

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  • mgolfmgolf ClubWRX Posts: 25 ✭✭

    I understand that it is to drive sales but it would be nice if it came out with the other model

  • youngunz5840youngunz5840 Members Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Just ordered a 9* lst set 8* with the weight in draw setting. I was playing a m5 and going between the lst and ts3. M5 was not forgiving and ball speeds/smash factor were lowest. Ts3 has really good smash factor and speed but spin was not the best and liked to go right. Lst hit all the boxes for me. Good sound and feel, lowish spin and plenty of forgiveness. Have an Accra tz5 on the way from Mark from Center Cut Custom Golf and he said if you want low spin and forgiveness the G410lst is the way to go.
    Opening the face and lowering the loft and actually help me hit the ball straighter as I found out I was holding off to avoid that twist face low hook I was getting. Now I can swing hard and free and the worst I get is a fade without crazy spin

  • abking1992abking1992 Hanging at the goat farm Members Posts: 58 ✭✭

    Replaced my G30LS with the 410LS this week. I'm really struggling to work it right to left. I've been slinging draws with the G30LS for 5 years, but have to work really hard on this one (even with the draw setting).

    I played the G30LS at 44" and I have the Evenflow stock length. Ordered an adapter to retip my G30LS shaft. I'm wondering if the longer driver is causing issues getting the clubface closed.

    Golf is hard
  • SMUGamerSMUGamer Members Posts: 552 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Most folks that draw/hook would love to have your problem unless your slicing, of course. > @abking1992 said:

    Replaced my G30LS with the 410LS this week. I'm really struggling to work it right to left. I've been slinging draws with the G30LS for 5 years, but have to work really hard on this one (even with the draw setting).

    I played the G30LS at 44" and I have the Evenflow stock length. Ordered an adapter to retip my G30LS shaft. I'm wondering if the longer driver is causing issues getting the clubface closed.

  • IL2AZIL2AZ Members Posts: 301 ✭✭✭✭
    edited Jul 25, 2019 1:48pm #561

    Came from an 8.5 400 LST that looks to have 9 to 9.5 degrees of loft in standard setting (didn't get it digitally lofted) based on the eye test. Decided on the 410 LST in 10.5 played in the 9.5 flat setting. Prefer the look, sound and feel of it over the 400. The 410 LST is noticeably more forgiving and anti-hook than the 400 LST in this flat, -1 degree setting. One thing I did notice is that putting the moveable weight in the toe/fade setting did drop ballspeed a few mph for some reason. Moved it back to neutral and still find it to be anti-hook enough to still be able to go after it without fear of the "lefts". I was fitted outdoor on Trackman with Pro V1s by Ping at Kierland in Scottsdale. It is FREE and I would highly recommend it if you are in the area. I have never felt as comfortable with a decision on a driver purchase as I did with this one.

    Post edited by IL2AZ on
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    Ping G400 LST 8.5 Diamana BF 60TX
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    PXG 0311X 3-5 Project X HC Even Flow Blue 6.0
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  • Pleasedwith3puttsPleasedwith3putts Members Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @IL2AZ said:
    .One thing I did notice is that putting the moveable weight in the toe/fade setting did drop ballspeed a few mph for some reason.

    That's exactly what I found too - see post ~542 above

  • mikeditmikedit Members Posts: 205 ✭✭✭

    Does putting it in the draw position have the same effect on ball speed??

  • 3 Jack Par3 Jack Par I only answer to "Ace" now Members, ClubWRX Posts: 6,133 ClubWRX

    Since switching to the Flat -1 setting, I'm seeing much more consistent results. Most of the time, it produces a very slight draw or fade (I have the weight in the neutral setting), and I've been hitting a lot of fairways with it in this position. I originally had it in the -1.5 setting, and that worked pretty well, but I was seeing more draws that I'm comfortable with, given that my preferred ball flight is a fade. This setting really seems to have dialed this club in for me.

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    Ping G410 LST 14.5* (set to 13*) Aldila Rogue Silver 130 80TX
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  • Deuce78Deuce78 Members Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    My 410 lst with T1100 is great! I like the look better than 400. If it spins less than 410 and similar moi to the regular 410, it's a no brainer. I am hitting some long drives most are in the fairway. What more can I ask for.?Feel wise my m5 is the cream of the crop though. Even with hot melt in the lst...I just play what I like distance is so close in these drivers...however I'm going to try a pxg to see what happens....haha...

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  • IL2AZIL2AZ Members Posts: 301 ✭✭✭✭
    edited Jul 25, 2019 1:47pm #566

    @Pleasedwith3putts said:

    @IL2AZ said:
    .One thing I did notice is that putting the moveable weight in the toe/fade setting did drop ballspeed a few mph for some reason.

    That's exactly what I found too - see post ~542 above

    The Ping fitter stated they attribute it to the face closing at a slower rate, thus the slightly lower ballspeed. They also mentioned Finau gained a few mph when he moved the weight to the draw setting as the face was rotating at a quicker rate. I did not try this setting myself, however, as I was trying to reduce right to left movement.

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    Ping G410 9 Hzrdus Smoke Black 60 6.5TX
    Ping G400 LST 8.5 Diamana BF 60TX
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    Taylormade M3 5W Aldila Rogue Black 80X
    PXG 0311X 3-5 Project X HC Even Flow Blue 6.0
    Mizuno MP 18 SC Nippon Modus 120x
    Vokey SM6 50F, 54S, 60S
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    Ping Redwood Anser Black Satin
    Scotty Cameron Studio Stainless NP2 350
  • knickerbockerknickerbocker Pipe Dreamer Members Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @3 Jack Par said:
    Since switching to the Flat -1 setting, I'm seeing much more consistent results. Most of the time, it produces a very slight draw or fade (I have the weight in the neutral setting), and I've been hitting a lot of fairways with it in this position. I originally had it in the -1.5 setting, and that worked pretty well, but I was seeing more draws that I'm comfortable with, given that my preferred ball flight is a fade. This setting really seems to have dialed this club in for me.

    I am rolling a 9* set in 10* Flat with weight in fade setting and I hit slight draws if I really go after it or a slight fade with a smooth speed.
    I spent a lot of time dialing in combos.

    9* G LST w/ Aldila Rogue Silver i/o 60
    14* Callaway XR Pro w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 70
    20* Callaway XR Pro Hybrid
    Taylormade p790 4 - GW with Modus Tour 120
    Taylormade Milled Grind Antique Bronze 54 and 58 with Modus Tour 120
    Putter: Scotty Cameron GOLO3
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  • BarfolomewBarfolomew #worstWRXer Members Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Does the LST sit open when set to the large - ? Love a head that sits open.... my G30 LST does and thinking of upgrading from great grandpa

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  • Kale_mKale_m Members Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Barfolomew said:
    Does the LST sit open when set to the large - ? Love a head that sits open.... my G30 LST does and thinking of upgrading from great grandpa

    The ones I have seen do

    Ping g410 plus 8* 1 flat Fuji pro 2.0 Ts 6x
    Titleist TS3 16.5* evenflow white t1100 6.5 75g
    Ping g410 19* hybrid 
    Callaway Apex MB Raw TIX100
    Callaway md4 52/56
    Tm hi toe 60
    Tm spider x 34” navy with true path alignment
  • Deuce78Deuce78 Members Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Barfolomew said:
    Does the LST sit open when set to the large - ? Love a head that sits open.... my G30 LST does and thinking of upgrading from great grandpa

    Not sure how you missed the g400LST, but I am 1000% sure you should get a 400LST or 410 LST over the g30....

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    PING G410 [email protected] HZRDUS T1100 75g 6.5 
    PING G410 17.5 HZRDUS T1100 85g 6.5
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  • BarfolomewBarfolomew #worstWRXer Members Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @Deuce78 said:

    @Barfolomew said:
    Does the LST sit open when set to the large - ? Love a head that sits open.... my G30 LST does and thinking of upgrading from great grandpa

    Not sure how you missed the g400LST, but I am 1000% sure you should get a 400LST or 410 LST over the g30....

    I prob will get the 410 LST to try as I find the flatter lie also very intriguing

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