Tiger Car Accident. ***All Content Subject to Moderation***

[golfandfishing]

5 hours ago, orangeology said:

yes anyone can be entitled to have an opinion, no matter what. tho,

if i got an accident and rolled over on the roadside with fractured bones, not sure if the first thing i'd like hear is something like 'were you drunk?"... 

 

quite simple at least to me. someone got injured, what i'd hope first thing would be 'oh s$%^. hope the person's ok. if not, hope the person feel better soon. not because that person was famous Tiger Woods nor i'm a fan of him. 

 

hope he recover soon. really hope to see him play again. #godspeed

If you rolled your car over on a clear day in the company of no other traffic and you were conscious and not critical when the police arrived you can bet all that you have that you will be asked if you had anything to drink that day (no matter what time it is).  It is perfectly reasonable to consider impairment when a driver is found upside down in the bushes and 100 yards from his side of the road. It seems irresponsible to me for an officer to not evaluate a person’s sobriety in that scenario if possible, it doesn’t matter if you would “like it” or not. Don’t want people to question your sobriety?  Don’t appear on television higher than Sputnik on a Sunday then roll your car off the street on Tuesday. 
 

The responding officer found no evidence of alcohol and no reason to suspect impairment- but he at least considered it and justifiably so. 

[drbonesvt]

Being an off week?? Would he be porting his own sticks around in the car / suv ?? 

[One Putter]

9 hours ago, A.Princey said:

I think this applies well to many of the folks posting in here...

 

https://deadspin.com/sports-media-really-whiffed-on-the-tiger-woods-coverage-1846349224/amp

Yeah its truly disgusting. Just glad Tiger is alive.

[KRAMER1997]

1 hour ago, jswjr said:

Lots of posts about if Tiger can physically recover and play PGA golf again......and that's fine...

 

However after this accident Tiger may not have the desire to play tournament level golf anymore.....

I know I've been all over the place in this thread about whether or not Tiger will play again, but here is a little snippet. Knowing Tiger he will go above and beyond with his treatment and exhaust all avenues before hanging it up.   

 

 

https://www.outkick.com/tiger-woods-reportedly-doesnt-want-career-to-end-like-this/ 

[jobin]

"Medical exemption".  Just like Casey Martin got a few years back. Tiger will be out for one full year, then seek the use of powered golf cart coz he won't be able to walk properly the full 18 holes per day of a tourney.

He'll start slow, on some foreign course to test the waters.  Maybe the ZOZO in Japan again, or the HERO in India. Naturally he will draw massive crowds and once again, sponsor a great golf revival. 

 

I'll go out on a limb here and suggest he pimp his ride in orange/white motif, some tiger stripes, jazzy wheels and furry steering wheel. He will tote that buggy wherever he goes, just like the pope.

 

The Tiger haters will object loudly. But the PGA/USGA and medicos will come through with the paperwork and xrays to give the GOAT another shot at glory.

[jordan2240]

It's understandable that many are hoping to see Tiger back.  The game is simply not as much fun to watch without him, or someone like him who competes with that intensity and has a chance to win every week - at least I don't think it is.  I was hoping Bryson D. might fill in the void some, but he's proving to be pretty inconsistent.   Last year was a pretty good indication Tiger was finished competing seriously, and after news of another back surgery, it seemed pretty definite this year wasn't going to be any improvement.  Obviously, any speculation on that is a moot point now.   But the guy could have died, and there would still be people hoping he could make a comeback.  That's just the impact he's had on the game. 

[junkfry]

10 hours ago, ALIF said:

Maybe he did have a pilon fracture. I’d like to see the films.

Right foot on a brake pedal or floor board during a high velocity MVA more than likely will equal a pilon fracture or a very nasty Lisfranc injury.

[Ferguson]

1 hour ago, jswjr said:

Lots of posts about if Tiger can physically recover and play PGA golf again......and that's fine...

 

However after this accident Tiger may not have the desire to play tournament level golf anymore.....

 

1 hour ago, Naptime said:

I fear he will be an ceremonial starter at Augusta much sooner than we would have otherwise thought.  The rest of his body will continue to age as he rehabs, and he was realistically at the tail end of a fabulous career anyway. A bit like Serena, arguably the TW of women's tennis, getting close but not quite enough to win against younger players in the majors. With the wreck there likely won't be a real "farewell tour" final plan playing year. I expect that we will next see him in a pro event as a Ryder Cup captain. Thanks for the memories.

 

 

 

 

Or, we perhaps can refrain from guessing and see how the recovery goes.   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It was a "car accident", nothing "life-threatening."   

 

 

 

[DatSliceDoe]

9 hours ago, A.Princey said:

I think this applies well to many of the folks posting in here...

 

https://deadspin.com/sports-media-really-whiffed-on-the-tiger-woods-coverage-1846349224/amp

I wrote Barstool off a long time ago, for good reason.

[bscinstnct]

 

[lefty1978]

40 minutes ago, jobin said:

"Medical exemption".  Just like Casey Martin got a few years back. Tiger will be out for one full year, then seek the use of powered golf cart coz he won't be able to walk properly the full 18 holes per day of a tourney.

He'll start slow, on some foreign course to test the waters.  Maybe the ZOZO in Japan again, or the HERO in India. Naturally he will draw massive crowds and once again, sponsor a great golf revival. 

 

I'll go out on a limb here and suggest he pimp his ride in orange/white motif, some tiger stripes, jazzy wheels and furry steering wheel. He will tote that buggy wherever he goes, just like the pope.

 

The Tiger haters will object loudly. But the PGA/USGA and medicos will come through with the paperwork and xrays to give the GOAT another shot at glory.

Tiger will never play in a PGA tour event with a cart, he has way too much pride for that. He either can walk 18 and play golf or he will hang em up.

[kasting333]

Great podcast by Hank Haney going over the injury after speaking with his orthopedic surgeon. Very detailed. Tiger is lucky it’s his right leg. 

 

Podcast link

[Lakeeffectgolf]

I would love to know the last recorded speed on the vehicles computer. 

[Naptime]

https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/diseases--conditions/lisfranc-midfoot-injury/

https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/diseases--conditions/pilon-fractures-of-the-ankle/

 

A couple of links for folks who want to know more about some of the orthopedic issues mentioned in various posts.

[PuttCurseRepeat]

2 hours ago, drbonesvt said:

Being an off week?? Would he be porting his own sticks around in the car / suv ?? 

I sell houses and I always have golf clubs in my vehicle. A professional golfer/golf course developer on his way to give a celebrity lesson having golf clubs in his vehicle isn't very surprising to me. Now, if he had "Open House" signs in his suv I'd probably raise an eyebrow.

[WhostherealSlimShady]

Tiger has proven time and time again that he can come back from surgeries so it would not surprise me if he does. Father time may catch him this time ... we will see.

[TheMoneyShot]

4 minutes ago, WhostherealSlimShady said:

Tiger has proven time and time again that he can come back from surgeries so it would not surprise me if he does. Father time may catch him this time ... we will see.

I have learned to never bet against TW over the many years...

[skyking]

2 hours ago, golfandfishing said:

If you rolled your car over on a clear day in the company of no other traffic and you were conscious and not critical when the police arrived you can bet all that you have that you will be asked if you had anything to drink that day (no matter what time it is).  It is perfectly reasonable to consider impairment when a driver is found upside down in the bushes and 100 yards from his side of the road. It seems irresponsible to me for an officer to not evaluate a person’s sobriety in that scenario if possible, it doesn’t matter if you would “like it” or not. Don’t want people to question your sobriety?  Don’t appear on television higher than Sputnik on a Sunday then roll your car off the street on Tuesday. 
 

The responding officer found no evidence of alcohol and no reason to suspect impairment- but he at least considered it and justifiably so. 

 

They think not taking a blood sample will end speculation but it will have the opposite effect. Someone there knows and based on history with celebrities it will leak out at some point. Heck there was blood on the airbag. I could see someone wiping it off and getting it tested at a lab. May not be admissible in court but it leads to ask the right questions.
 

Yeah...he really looked out of it Sunday OMG. Hope he gets to enjoy life with his kids and his near billion dollars in assets. I would...big time.  

[larciel]

56 minutes ago, Lakeeffectgolf said:

I would love to know the last recorded speed on the vehicles computer. 

I've lived in the area and went on that road many times. It will be AT LEAST 55. After knowing how the crash happened? probably 65-75.

If more than that? Tiger should thank Genesis everyday rest of his life.

[kredik]

PGA TOUR LIVE just had a long intro bout TW  mentioning the players are gonna do some "tributes" after making putts,etc...

 

Homa,rory and JT featured group!

 

 

 

[Holy Moses]

I’ve been through the range of emotions lately. At first I saw the wrecked SUV and just hoped Tiger was alive. He was, sigh of relief. Then we hear he has broken legs. Ok, but now it looks to be just one. Then a busted ankle and reports that it’s a nasty break and his ankle was “dust.”Soft tissue injury. Now orthopedic doctors heard the hospital’s report and are saying the injuries are quite serious. I can’t tell if it’s just doctors who is familiar with the injury and everything is super serious to those who are in the know or not. 

[Hawkeye77]

1 hour ago, kasting333 said:

Great podcast by Hank Haney going over the injury after speaking with his orthopedic surgeon. Very detailed. Tiger is lucky it’s his right leg. 

 

Podcast link

Funny how Haney only seems to be relevant (other than getting canned) when he writes about or talks about Tiger, lol.

 

Even these random doctors bolstering their personal social media "relevance" with analysis - kind of embarrassing, or should be.

[LeoKal]

So law enforcement says it was an “accident” and will not issue a citation.  I practiced motor vehicle law for 41 years and typically there WOULD be a citation for speeding or careless or reckless driving.  Possibly an animal or something appeared suddenly on the roadway which could be a defense, but the accident still involves significant speed, possibly twice the speed limit.

[Greg_B]

2 hours ago, KRAMER1997 said:

I know I've been all over the place in this thread about whether or not Tiger will play again, but here is a little snippet. Knowing Tiger he will go above and beyond with his treatment and exhaust all avenues before hanging it up.   

 

 

https://www.outkick.com/tiger-woods-reportedly-doesnt-want-career-to-end-like-this/ 

One of the dumber stories I've seen on the subject. It seems highly unlikely that Tiger is even capable of grasping what the challenges ahead may be, since the doctors themselves don't know. One suspects the source close to Tiger was Steiney, who doesn't want his meal ticket to retire.

[ALIF]

2 hours ago, junkfry said:

Right foot on a brake pedal or floor board during a high velocity MVA more than likely will equal a pilon fracture or a very nasty Lisfranc injury.

Exactly, and if its either or both, recovery will be very difficult. No matter how well I have fixed those injuries, the patients are just never the same. Two of the worst injuries one could sustain of the lower extremity. Plus his compartment syndrome and fasciotomies. Those may (usually) need to be skin grafted to be closed. I feel really bad for him.

[drbonesvt]

1 hour ago, PuttCurseRepeat said:

I sell houses and I always have golf clubs in my vehicle. A professional golfer/golf course developer on his way to give a celebrity lesson having golf clubs in his vehicle isn't very surprising to me. Now, if he had "Open House" signs in his suv I'd probably raise an eyebrow.

[Duct Tape]

20 minutes ago, Hawkeye77 said:

Funny how Haney only seems to be relevant (other than getting canned) when he writes about or talks about Tiger, lol.

 

Even these random doctors bolstering their personal social media "relevance" with analysis - kind of embarrassing, or should be.

Hopefully you’re not referring the few MD’s who have offered their opinions here, all pretty much consistent in the message that an early or full recovery may not be in the cards, contrary to many earlier posts with wishful thinking. Based of course on the limited info provided., and also certainly opposite our own wishes. Just the honest facts as we currently see them. 
 

In my case, it’s one of the few times I have something of substance and hopefully accuracy to add to the forum knowledge pool. My equipment and tour talk chops are otherwise pretty limited.  I could care less about social media relevance. Just a doc and a golfer. 

[Go Cougs]

Tiger's definitely got grit.  I wouldn't be completely shocked to see him go through the rehab for a comeback just as a final FU to those who think he can't.  Or maybe just to prove it to himself.  The guy does seem to relish a challenge.

[kasting333]

19 minutes ago, Hawkeye77 said:

Funny how Haney only seems to be relevant (other than getting canned) when he writes about or talks about Tiger, lol.

 

Even these random doctors bolstering their personal social media "relevance" with analysis - kind of embarrassing, or should be.

I mean it’s the biggest story in golf obviously and he went over what we know about Tiger’s injuries with his doctor and took notes. He’s not throwing out reckless allegations like Jaime Diaz on GC. 
 

I had a bad view of Haney after his Tiger book but I listened to him on Johnny’s WRX pod and it was really insightful so I listening to his podcast.
 

He’s the best golf analyst out there and completely fair with his Tiger analysis. 

[junkfry]

23 minutes ago, ALIF said:

Exactly, and if its either or both, recovery will be very difficult. No matter how well I have fixed those injuries, the patients are just never the same. Two of the worst injuries one could sustain of the lower extremity. Plus his compartment syndrome and fasciotomies. Those may (usually) need to be skin grafted to be closed. I feel really bad for him.

Me too. It's gonna be a long and uncertain road back for him.

Edited February 25, 2021 by junkfry
changed my mind on the comment