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Haven’t seen a better looking, higher spinning, better feeling wedge than the RTX Zipcore! I’ve got a 50, 52, 54, and 58, and I’m sticking more shots within 10ft from the hole than ever before…they’re suuuuper smooth!

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1 hour ago, BallerNate said:

Haven’t seen a better looking, higher spinning, better feeling wedge than the RTX Zipcore! I’ve got a 50, 52, 54, and 58, and I’m sticking more shots within 10ft from the hole than ever before…they’re suuuuper smooth!

sweet.....did you have anything prior? how do they compare?

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I have to say, among the skilled people I play with it is hard to find a wedge without BV stamped on it. I personally branched out for a bit, but as far as looking for more spin I don't think you'll have much success. Maybe try the BV raw through the custom shop, which is what I'm currently rocking. If you're looking for feel, one of my staff friends plays Miura wedges and they're the sweetest things I've ever hit. 

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1 hour ago, tsecor said:

I am in th emarket for a new wedge and currently play a Vokey......its been fine, but i may be looking for another wedge that feels a little better and creates a bit more spin. Would like a nice classic shape like the vokey....any suggestions? 

I currently use Vokey SM8s -- chose them because they offer the specific bounce/grind options I was looking for, and don't regret the decision. But prior to that I was playing Cleveland RTX 4s, and got a little bit more spin out of them. Same specs in terms of length/loft/lie/shaft. That might be unique to me, who knows. But based on my experience, I'd think the Zipcores, which are the new generation of my old RTX 4s, would be worth a look. 

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Driver: Ping G430 LST 9* | Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 6X

3W: Ping G430 Max @14* | Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 70X

7W: Ping G430 Max @20* | Graphite Design Tour AD DI 8X (or sometimes G430 3H with Tour 2.0 Chrome 85S)

4 Utility: Ping iCrossover @23.5* | Graphite Design Tour AD DI 95X (or sometimes G430 5H at 25* with Tour 2.0 Chrome 85S)

Irons: Ping i230 5-UW | Fujikura AXIOM 105X

Wedges: Callaway Jaws Raw 54/12W@55/13W, 60/12X | Nippon Modus 125 Wedge

Putter: Bettinardi 2024 BB1 Wide 

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Cleveland RTX is  more forgiving on slight mishits than Vokey.  I've tried Vokey wedges, including various sole grind options, but have always found them to be too penalizing for a slight mishit. For wedge play from less than ideal lies slight mishits will happen.

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Cleveland TL310 10.5* driver

Cleveland HB Launcher 15* 3-wood

Srixon H65  19* 3 hybrid and 22* 4 hybrid

Mizuno MP63 5 thru 9-iron

Cleveland RTX 48-52-56-64 wedges

Scotty Cameron Classic III putter

 

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If I had to rank just purely based on preference and my game, what I have played in the past it would be:

 

1. Current Gamers Ping glide 2.0 Stealth (great when precision is needed around the green and some forgiveness on full/feel shots)

2. Cleveland RTX 4 (loved the shape, money out of the bunker, classic, have always loved Cleveland wedges)

3. Vokey SM6,7,8 (money around the green, 54 S grind was my scalpel, not great on half, TQ, full swings for me)

4. Callaway Jaws (just meh)

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4 hours ago, tsecor said:

sweet.....did you have anything prior? how do they compare?

My previous wedges were TM Milled Grind (OG’s). To me the Zipcore’s have much better feel and better control on partial swings…not even close in my opinion.

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Callaway Paradym X (11*) / Hzrdus Black Smoke 6.0

Callaway Paradym X (15*) / Hzrdus Silver 6.0

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Srixon ZX5 (4-PW) / Nippon Modus3 Tour 105 S

Cleveland RTX 6 Zipcore (52* Mid, 58* Mid) / DG Spinner

Odyssey White Hot OG 7 S

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Vokey 56.14 F grind is my favorite. 

 

Trying the MG2 TW 60* out and really like it so far. Might have to swap out the s400 bc it’s so heavy but it does create a ton of spin. Easy to manipulate to hit half shots and spinners, but also good on full shots 

SIM 8* Ventus Black 7x
Ping G25 3 wood Diamana D+ X

NLU 18* DI Ventus Black 10X
Muira 1957 4-PW X100 120
Vokey SM8 M 50*/Vokey SM4 S 56*/Vokey SM8 T 60*
Scotty Cameron Mil Spec 350 35” 
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I’m with @BallerNate et al, go with Zipcore. I’ve had the mid grind 56 & 60 in the bag all season. (and I’m a wedge ho) The Mid bounce V-sole is so versatile, it’s got all the shots and is quite easy to control trajectory & spin. I might add 56 Full and 60 Low, to cover very soft & very firm conditions; or a full face 64 just for fun.

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Callaway Mavrik Max 1W 10.5° HZRDUS Smoke 60

Callaway Epic Flash SZ 3W 15° HZRDUS Smoke 70

Cobra LTDx LS 5W 17.5° HZRDUS Smoke 70

Cobra LTDx 4Hy 21° HZRDUS Smoke 80

Srixon ZU85 4U 23° / Z585 6i-7i / Z785 8i-AW

Cleveland RTX Zipcore 56° 60°
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I'd stick with your current Vokey's and I'll explain why.

 

I played Vokey's my entire golfing life until about 2 years ago.  Then I went on a never-ending wedge experiment.  I've spent the past 2 years playing different wedges with different grinds.  I'm not talking about hitting some balls on the range or playing a few rounds with a different wedge, I'm talking about 6-12 month periods of time to really get to know these clubs.

 

First stop was Cleveland RTX's.  Next up was TM Milled Grinds.  Neither was as good for me for whatever reason.  Then I spent almost 12 months with Mizuno's.

 

For the past 6 months I've been gaming a Callaway combo of Jaws and PM Grind.  I do like the Callaways but I'm about to go back to Vokey's and end the experiment.

 

And regarding spin, nothing has ever spun as well for me as my old Vokey SM4 56/14.

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6 hours ago, jbrunk said:

I’m with @BallerNate et al, go with Zipcore. I’ve had the mid grind 56 & 60 in the bag all season. (and I’m a wedge ho) The Mid bounce V-sole is so versatile, it’s got all the shots and is quite easy to control trajectory & spin. I might add 56 Full and 60 Low, to cover very soft & very firm conditions; or a full face 64 just for fun.

Yeah, the control and feel is incredible! I’m going to add a 60* Low most likely too just to try a different option…can’t have too many Zipcores!! 😁

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Callaway Paradym X (11*) / Hzrdus Black Smoke 6.0

Callaway Paradym X (15*) / Hzrdus Silver 6.0

Callaway Rogue St Max OS (21*) / Tensei AV Blue 75 S

Srixon ZX5 (4-PW) / Nippon Modus3 Tour 105 S

Cleveland RTX 6 Zipcore (52* Mid, 58* Mid) / DG Spinner

Odyssey White Hot OG 7 S

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I picked up a DCI 962 LW that is better than any wedge I've ever had. It feels light but the overall weight is not actually.

"Shirtsleeve" swing technique:

1. Setup: Elbows bent forearms pressed together against shaft slightly forward of center with "Hogan" "active/flexed" leg tension left foot turned out slightly and the right leg slightly farther to the right - weight mostly on balls of feet butt of left hands sits on the top of the grip with very light grip.

2. Swing - W/o disturbing weight distribution of legs and feet lower hands while doing a forward press "swing trigger" then the left upper arm takes over on the backswing, it needs to go out in front of the body then back in front of the chest as the hands trace down initially then up to over the right shoulder "Torres". The goal is to not disturb the pressure of the feet during the initial takeaway.

 

Notes:

1. Only swing thought after swing trigger - extend left arm at shirt sleeve when reaching left hand over right shoulder "Shirtsleeve technique".

2. The upper left arm move "Shirtsleeve technique" can be practiced independently without a club, sitting down for instance

3. The correct feet tension can be felt by doing very short hops on the balls of the feet then holding the same feeling of pressure on the front of the feet and then taking three practice swings with the grip very loose in order to not disturb the same pressure on the feet and on the 3rd swing actively do the "Shirtsleeve" move. From there the swing should be done within a matter of seconds to not lose the feel of the legs resisting, this way this is not a learned technique as much as it is a setup technique.

 

 

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I just left the SM8's for the new RTX FullFace Zipcore 52* and 58* as to me they feel much better and easier to control. 

 

Driver: Cobra  50th Anniversary Edition Aerojet 10.5 w/Graphite Design Tour AD IZ4 

3W: Callaway  Paradym X 3w/ Graphite Design Tour AD CQ5  

5/7W: Callaway Paradym X / Project X Hzrdus Gen 4 silver 5.5

Irons:  Titleist T-350 w/Aerotech i80r

Wedges:  Cleveland RTX 6 ZipCore 48* and 54* w/Aerotech i95r

Putter:  ENVROLL E2 34" with Stability Fire shaft  w/ Oversize Black PURE grip (rotate) ODESSEY EYE TRAX 2-BALL w/BGT Stability Carbon 33" 2 Thumb OG Lite 31 black grip

 

 

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I've just picked up the TaylorMade MG2 TW grind in a 56 and it's a fantastic wedge - classic shape, decent feel and plenty of check. 

 

I always swore by Nike wedges - and if I could have found a brand new Engage I would have gone with that, but I'm finding this an excellent substitute. It's effectively an Engage Dual Sole, but available new. 

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Henrik - Titleist 917 F3 15 deg, Rogue Max 75x, B2 Setting

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The Blades - Nike VR Pro 4 - AW, S400 Tour Issue, +0.5 inch

The Sand Iron - TaylorMade MG2 TW-12 Grind, 56 degree, S400 Tour Issue

The Flopper - TaylorMade MG2 TW-11 Grind, 60 Degree, S400 Tour Issue

The Putter - Nike Method 003 from The Oven

 

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If you are looking for additional spin.  Zipcore are hard to beat, with a traditional look and a ton of options.   

Titleist TSr4 10.0*  Mitsubishi WB 63 tx  
TaylorMade BRNR Mini 13.5* Kai'li white- tx
Srixon ZX5 (4-6) ZX7 (7-pw) KBS tour 130-x
Mizuno T20 51* TT x-100

Callaway Full Toe 54*, 60* TT x-100
Callaway PM Grind 64*
Toulon First Run Las Vegas DB

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Driver - Ping 430 Max 10.5 Degree - Tensei 1K 70g  45"

Fairway Woods: Wilson Dynapower (2023) 5 and 7 woods
Irons: 6 - PW trade between Titleist T200 Steel Fiber i110s, and Wilson Staffs +1" - Shafts Project X LZ 5.5
Hybrids: Ping G425 26 degree Titleist TSi2 17 and 23 degree…..Shaft Project X 90 Hyb +1"
PW: Wilson Staff Custom 52 SW: Cleveland CBX Full Face 56 10 bounce
Putter: Jon Rham Limited Naked Rossie 
Ball: Wilson Staff, Pro V or Callaway Chrome Soft
Bag: Datrek 

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I played raw sm8 last year which had good performance.  I liked them but did not love them.  Tested T20 and really liked then but never pulled the trigger for whatever reason.  
 

Right now I have the new Honma wedges in the bag and they are pretty fantastic!  Feel so solid and dense and the soles just work really well for me.  Spin plenty as well.  As good as anything I’ve ever played.  A little more compact at address too.

Mizuno   STZ 230 9.5*   Tensei Raw White 65x

Taylormade   Tour Issue Stealth  3 HL Hzrdus RDX Blue 70 6.5

Taylormade   Stealth+ 5w   Diamana OG Kai’Li 70x  

Wilson   Staff CB 7-P / D9 Forged 5-6  Modus 120x

Vokey   Sm8 50, Sm10 54s bent to 55, Sm10 60s all custom ground 

Bettinardi  Custom BB46

Srixon Z Star 💎  OR   Bridgestone Tour B X 

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I have tried TM and Callaway Jaws - both lacked feel, I'm not sure if they are even forged.

 

I have a 48 degree Cleveland RTX in the bag. The shaft is the length of my 46 degree and it plays clunky and has no feel.

I play a Vokey 60 SM8  and a 52 Vokey.

 

In short nothing has the feel and feedback of Vokey wedges.

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If you're not adverse to dropping coin on a wedge, I would receommend the Miura line of wedges whether it be the Tour, HB or K-grind depending on what you need.  Feel way better than the Vokeys and has that classic look to them.  I always say that nothing feels like a Miura.  MIzuno is very underrated in the wedge department but feel better and softer than the Vokey and perform just as well. 

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TM SIM ti 15* - Diamana GT 80TX

TM Tour Issue Rescue 11 TP Deep Face Proto 16* - Ventus Black HB 9TX

New Level NLU-01 21* - KBS Hybrid Proto 105X

New Level 623-M 5-PW - MMT 125TX

Miura Tour 54* HB - KBS 610 125 S+, New Level SPN forged M-grind 58* - KBS Tour 130X

Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2

 

 

 

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